Reef Central Online Community
The Filter Guys

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > Invert and Plant Forums > Marine Plants & Macroalgae
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 12/07/2018, 01:08 PM   #326
vlangel
Registered Member
 
vlangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hoaster View Post
That sound pretty ambitious, Dawn! I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing. Are you saying you would turn one of the two tanks into the sump/fuge for the other? If so, would the top tank be a reef, and bottom one macros?

Or is it two separate displays draining to a common sump?

Either of those ideas sound doable. My concern is that it may make your overall setup more complex.

Could you flesh your idea out a little more clearly, so we all could better understand your idea?
Sure thing, I would be happy to.

The current blenny DT tank would mostly remain as it is except a partial fake wall and that the stand will probably get a 6" platform built for underneath it. This will raise tank and stand 6" higher. The reason for this is so I can build an overflow with pvc using a weir to overflow water into the lower (and what is now the current seahorse tank). Here is a YouTube link to the diy overflow I am considering.

https://youtu.be/UZytENJZtJw


The seahorse tank would be a display fuge, but using many of the principles in your 'Weeds v2'. It will have a DSB using mud, and different sized sand. It will probably have 1 piece of LR, (for a gorgonian and some red macros). I am not set whether I will grow feather caulerpa in the sand(to look like seagrass) or take the challenge of trying actual seagrasses. I will be following your tank and that may influence my final decision. This fuge will be a display fuge as much as a working fuge removing nutrients. Anyway the fuge will have an identical pvc overflow on it going to the sump. That way I know both tanks are draining at the same rate and the return pump in my sump is an adjustable so I should not have trouble dialing it into to the proper flow rate for the diameter drain I choose.

So yes, it will be more complicated in that I have 3 tanks that will now make up 1 system all sharing the same water. As long as I trust the diy overflows it should be fine. I have been using HOB overflows for years with absolutely no problems. If the flowing going in is well matched to the drain capacity out, bubbles do not build up. The model I am looking at also deals with the bubbles in its design which I like.

I would like to incorporate your fake wall concept to hide the pvc overflow parts that show in the tanks and probably powerheads too so both tanks are wholly natural looking.

And this is ambitious. But I can start by building a diy overflow and see if I think I can trust it. Everything hinges on that. If I can't trust the diy pvc overflow, then I have to consider buying 2 identical overflows and the box style are much bulkier and will require a more complicated fake wall to cover it. Not a show stopper but something to think about.

I hope this is understandable, LOL.


vlangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/08/2018, 12:38 AM   #327
Michael Hoaster
Registered Member
 
Michael Hoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,568
This sounds like an exciting project! A display fuge!

I'm flattered you're doing some of the things I'm doing. I hope it works for you! I hope it works for me!

Enjoy the process! I can't wait to see your interpretation of a fake wall. If you're going with mud, you might as well try a seagrass or two. So many choices with macros too.

My only concern with this setup is balancing the needs of two different display tanks that are connected.


__________________
As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance,
our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey

Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Lagoon in the works
Michael Hoaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/08/2018, 10:33 AM   #328
vlangel
Registered Member
 
vlangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hoaster View Post
This sounds like an exciting project! A display fuge!

I'm flattered you're doing some of the things I'm doing. I hope it works for you! I hope it works for me!

Enjoy the process! I can't wait to see your interpretation of a fake wall. If you're going with mud, you might as well try a seagrass or two. So many choices with macros too.

My only concern with this setup is balancing the needs of two different display tanks that are connected.
With your current experience Michael, how do you see the needs differing in the high nutrient blenny tank and the display fuge with macros and/or seagrasses? I thought they would both be high nutrient so I am not sure what there will be to balance. Since I do not know much about seagrass's needs I am hoping to learn that from you and your tank.


vlangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/08/2018, 02:12 PM   #329
Michael Hoaster
Registered Member
 
Michael Hoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,568
Actually, that sounds perfect Dawn! A high nutrient fish tank is the perfect pairing with a seaweed tank! The fish make the CO2, nitrogen, and phosphate for you! Smart. I had the mistaken idea the other tank was a low nutrient, reef tank.


__________________
As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance,
our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey

Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Lagoon in the works
Michael Hoaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/08/2018, 07:11 PM   #330
vlangel
Registered Member
 
vlangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hoaster View Post
Actually, that sounds perfect Dawn! A high nutrient fish tank is the perfect pairing with a seaweed tank! The fish make the CO2, nitrogen, and phosphate for you! Smart. I had the mistaken idea the other tank was a low nutrient, reef tank.
Ok good, I am thinking about this the right way. With me currently having the low nutrient seahorse tank I can see how things are confusing. I will be leaving clean tanks behind for good when I leave seahorses behind.


vlangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/08/2018, 08:21 PM   #331
Michael Hoaster
Registered Member
 
Michael Hoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,568
Cool beans! I look forward to seeing what you come up with!


__________________
As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance,
our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey

Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Lagoon in the works
Michael Hoaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12/10/2018, 08:35 AM   #332
Chasmodes
Registered Member
 
Chasmodes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 936
Your plan sounds exciting! I'll be watching your progress and am eager for your review of the DIY overflow.


__________________
Blennies Rock!

--Kevin Wilson

Current Tank Info: 101g 3'X3'X18" Cubish Oyster Reef Blenny tank, 36"X17"X18" sump
Chasmodes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 04:59 PM   #333
vlangel
Registered Member
 
vlangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasmodes View Post
Your plan sounds exciting! I'll be watching your progress and am eager for your review of the DIY overflow.
I probably will not tackle that until 2019 since I have a lot on my plate to accomplish before Christmas and our kids come. Here is a FTS of today. I moved a few coral around so they won't get stung and will have more room.
2018-12-11_05-27-00 by Dawn Gilson, on Flickr

2018-12-09_04-29-12 by Dawn Gilson, on Flickr

2018-12-11_06-04-38 by Dawn Gilson, on Flickr

2018-12-09_04-37-23 by Dawn Gilson, on Flickr



Last edited by vlangel; Yesterday at 05:09 PM.
vlangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 06:55 PM   #334
Michael Hoaster
Registered Member
 
Michael Hoaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,568
Tank looks good! Nice pics too!


__________________
As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance,
our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey

Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Lagoon in the works
Michael Hoaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 08:54 PM   #335
vlangel
Registered Member
 
vlangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,430
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hoaster View Post
Tank looks good! Nice pics too!
Thanks Michael.


vlangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2018 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.